Comments on: The Ishtar Gate http://www.wayfaring.info/2008/06/12/the-ishtar-gate/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=the-ishtar-gate Experience what real Travel means Fri, 10 Feb 2012 14:10:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Deb http://www.wayfaring.info/2008/06/12/the-ishtar-gate/comment-page-1/#comment-195690 Deb Wed, 09 Nov 2011 14:18:00 +0000 http://www.wayfaring.info/2008/06/12/the-ishtar-gate/#comment-195690 So, I guess what I'm trying to get across here, is that historical accuracy is a very tiny part of the contextual framework of the books of the Bible.  Without context there is no meaning to the stories or the words. There is only 2 dimentional understanding and the Bible is anything but 2 dimentional.  To really understand the message, to really grasp the meaning you need to understand who wrote those words, who they were intended for, and try to understand the place both sides were in in time, place, and frame of mind.  To assume these words were intended for me would be arrogant...but to know that I've been given permission to look into my spiritual ancestors treasure box of keepsake letters and documents is overwhelming.  This gift deserves my utmost respect, and it is my responsibility to read it and understand it without assumptions or speculations.  It is my responsibility to see the true message those words so artfully convey...this is impossible without context. So, I guess what I’m trying to get across here, is that historical accuracy is a very tiny part of the contextual framework of the books of the Bible.  Without context there is no meaning to the stories or the words. There is only 2 dimentional understanding and the Bible is anything but 2 dimentional.  To really understand the message, to really grasp the meaning you need to understand who wrote those words, who they were intended for, and try to understand the place both sides were in in time, place, and frame of mind.  To assume these words were intended for me would be arrogant…but to know that I’ve been given permission to look into my spiritual ancestors treasure box of keepsake letters and documents is overwhelming.  This gift deserves my utmost respect, and it is my responsibility to read it and understand it without assumptions or speculations.  It is my responsibility to see the true message those words so artfully convey…this is impossible without context.

]]> By: Deb http://www.wayfaring.info/2008/06/12/the-ishtar-gate/comment-page-1/#comment-195688 Deb Tue, 08 Nov 2011 15:05:00 +0000 http://www.wayfaring.info/2008/06/12/the-ishtar-gate/#comment-195688 Well I'm going to say I have a different view of the Bible.  NOT as an historic document, or as a spiritual rule book.  There are several references that are historically inaccurate (please keep in mind the Bible was inspired by God but written by men).  Also, we need to keep in mind that the books of the Bible were NOT written with the intend of being the Bible...they were letters, scrolls, documents written with a specific group in mind...so the context can be diluted and confused in todays understanding.  (Example: how I would address and talk with the President of the U.S. is vastly different than how I would address my friends. AND consider the difference in the the slang and colloquialisms that have taken place in the past 100 years just here in the U.S. alone) Several cultures did not view events in a linear timeline, but level of reverance or importance...those things were mentioned first.  If you wanted to perform a historical analyisis of inaccuracies you only need to compare the the first four books of the New Testiment.  Inaccurate if you are considering a linear timeline.  Also, there are inconsistancies because these things were written down long after the sacred birth, from 4 different perspectives.  Suprise...Jesus did not have a scribe following him around. I consider the Bible as more of an account of our spritual evolution...how we came to where we are today, and so very excited about where we are headed tomorrow.  To me, in this context...the Bible means so much more and I hold the stories with much more consideration and respect when I come to realize just what they meant to the people having those spritual experiences.  It makes me want to understand their perspective.  It makes me want to know why polygamy, slavery, physical abuses were not only blessed by God, but rules were put in place on how to excute them for the blessing. Well I’m going to say I have a different view of the Bible.  NOT as an historic document, or as a spiritual rule book.  There are several references that are historically inaccurate (please keep in mind the Bible was inspired by God but written by men).  Also, we need to keep in mind that the books of the Bible were NOT written with the intend of being the Bible…they were letters, scrolls, documents written with a specific group in mind…so the context can be diluted and confused in todays understanding.  (Example: how I would address and talk with the President of the U.S. is vastly different than how I would address my friends. AND consider the difference in the the slang and colloquialisms that have taken place in the past 100 years just here in the U.S. alone) Several cultures did not view events in a linear timeline, but level of reverance or importance…those things were mentioned first.  If you wanted to perform a historical analyisis of inaccuracies you only need to compare the the first four books of the New Testiment.  Inaccurate if you are considering a linear timeline.  Also, there are inconsistancies because these things were written down long after the sacred birth, from 4 different perspectives.  Suprise…Jesus did not have a scribe following him around.

I consider the Bible as more of an account of our spritual evolution…how we came to where we are today, and so very excited about where we are headed tomorrow.  To me, in this context…the Bible means so much more and I hold the stories with much more consideration and respect when I come to realize just what they meant to the people having those spritual experiences.  It makes me want to understand their perspective.  It makes me want to know why polygamy, slavery, physical abuses were not only blessed by God, but rules were put in place on how to excute them for the blessing.

]]> By: eminem http://www.wayfaring.info/2008/06/12/the-ishtar-gate/comment-page-1/#comment-195337 eminem Sun, 25 Sep 2011 02:03:00 +0000 http://www.wayfaring.info/2008/06/12/the-ishtar-gate/#comment-195337 hi hi

]]> By: Eminem http://www.wayfaring.info/2008/06/12/the-ishtar-gate/comment-page-1/#comment-195336 Eminem Sun, 25 Sep 2011 02:02:00 +0000 http://www.wayfaring.info/2008/06/12/the-ishtar-gate/#comment-195336 hi hi

]]> By: jake http://www.wayfaring.info/2008/06/12/the-ishtar-gate/comment-page-1/#comment-195335 jake Sun, 25 Sep 2011 02:01:00 +0000 http://www.wayfaring.info/2008/06/12/the-ishtar-gate/#comment-195335 me and my friend are working on a project in world history and we have to do it on mesopatamia me and my friend are working on a project in world history and we have to do it on mesopatamia

]]> By: jake http://www.wayfaring.info/2008/06/12/the-ishtar-gate/comment-page-1/#comment-195334 jake Sun, 25 Sep 2011 01:59:00 +0000 http://www.wayfaring.info/2008/06/12/the-ishtar-gate/#comment-195334 i like turtles and lizards i like turtles and lizards

]]> By: Terencemckenna77 http://www.wayfaring.info/2008/06/12/the-ishtar-gate/comment-page-1/#comment-195305 Terencemckenna77 Mon, 19 Sep 2011 19:48:00 +0000 http://www.wayfaring.info/2008/06/12/the-ishtar-gate/#comment-195305 Reading the different comments on this page, I'm amazed at how so many people are misguided  into thinking the Bible is not historically correct. Even the History channel,Discovery and,if I am not mistaken,Nat Geo has admitted to the historical accuracy of the Bible. I won't go as far as saying that any of those channels would call the religious side of the Bible "historic", but the archeological aspects in the Bible have been found true by a great many archeologists from both religious schools and purely "scientific" schools of thought. Sodom and Gomoraha  have been found and appear to have been completely destroyed in a manner similar to what was described in the Bible and in the area also described in the Bible. If you keep an open mind, you find it is much easier to learn true history rather than sticking your foot in your mouth and showing your ignorance parroting negative, biased opinions!   Reading the different comments on this page, I’m amazed at how so many people are misguided  into thinking the Bible is not historically correct. Even the History channel,Discovery and,if I am not mistaken,Nat Geo has admitted to the historical accuracy of the Bible. I won’t go as far as saying that any of those channels would call the religious side of the Bible “historic”, but the archeological aspects in the Bible have been found true by a great many archeologists from both religious schools and purely “scientific” schools of thought. Sodom and Gomoraha  have been found and appear to have been completely destroyed in a manner similar to what was described in the Bible and in the area also described in the Bible. If you keep an open mind, you find it is much easier to learn true history rather than sticking your foot in your mouth and showing your ignorance parroting negative, biased opinions!  

]]> By: Deow http://www.wayfaring.info/2008/06/12/the-ishtar-gate/comment-page-1/#comment-193172 Deow Fri, 25 Feb 2011 14:12:00 +0000 http://www.wayfaring.info/2008/06/12/the-ishtar-gate/#comment-193172 my country was very beautiful but now look at it fuck the army my country was very beautiful but now look at it
fuck the army

]]> By: Japan http://www.wayfaring.info/2008/06/12/the-ishtar-gate/comment-page-1/#comment-192702 Japan Wed, 26 Jan 2011 04:29:00 +0000 http://www.wayfaring.info/2008/06/12/the-ishtar-gate/#comment-192702 get off your horse get off your horse

]]> By: Japan http://www.wayfaring.info/2008/06/12/the-ishtar-gate/comment-page-1/#comment-192703 Japan Wed, 26 Jan 2011 04:29:00 +0000 http://www.wayfaring.info/2008/06/12/the-ishtar-gate/#comment-192703 get off your horse get off your horse

]]> By: Japan http://www.wayfaring.info/2008/06/12/the-ishtar-gate/comment-page-1/#comment-192700 Japan Wed, 26 Jan 2011 04:29:00 +0000 http://www.wayfaring.info/2008/06/12/the-ishtar-gate/#comment-192700 get off your horse get off your horse

]]> By: Japan http://www.wayfaring.info/2008/06/12/the-ishtar-gate/comment-page-1/#comment-192701 Japan Wed, 26 Jan 2011 04:29:00 +0000 http://www.wayfaring.info/2008/06/12/the-ishtar-gate/#comment-192701 get off your horse get off your horse

]]> By: Aidan_is_retarded http://www.wayfaring.info/2008/06/12/the-ishtar-gate/comment-page-1/#comment-192624 Aidan_is_retarded Sun, 16 Jan 2011 20:34:00 +0000 http://www.wayfaring.info/2008/06/12/the-ishtar-gate/#comment-192624 I may not agree with what Abaabad said, but YOU should learn to spell and use correct grammar before calling someone "stupid and idiot," IDIOT. I may not agree with what Abaabad said, but YOU should learn to spell and use correct grammar before calling someone “stupid and idiot,” IDIOT.

]]> By: Aidan http://www.wayfaring.info/2008/06/12/the-ishtar-gate/comment-page-1/#comment-192618 Aidan Sat, 15 Jan 2011 10:57:00 +0000 http://www.wayfaring.info/2008/06/12/the-ishtar-gate/#comment-192618 Hey Abaabad! before you make comments against the Bible you must read it first because only morons and idiots are the people who are saying that the bible is unreliable. Your so funny stupid and idiot! Hey Abaabad! before you make comments against the Bible you must read it first because only morons and idiots are the people who are saying that the bible is unreliable. Your so funny stupid and idiot!

]]> By: Jessica http://www.wayfaring.info/2008/06/12/the-ishtar-gate/comment-page-1/#comment-192581 Jessica Tue, 11 Jan 2011 21:19:00 +0000 http://www.wayfaring.info/2008/06/12/the-ishtar-gate/#comment-192581 hi hi

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